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A Silver Cylinder with a Flame Tail over the Adirondacks

At about 09:06 on 20 September 1949 Lt. Col. Phillip J. Kuhl, flying a C-45 towards Griffiss Air Force Base, saw a silvery cylinder trailing an orange-and-white flame dive into the overcast some thirty miles away. The Air Force filed the report and the pages read carry no conclusion. This is the record of what an Air Force crew reported, not a verdict on what fell through the cloud.

◆ THE SHORT VERSION

  • A Silver Cylinder with a Flame Tail over the Adirondacks is a reported UAP case About 30 miles north-east of Griffiss AFB, Rome, New York (object reported near 43°40'N 74°55'W), 20 September 1949, 09:06.
  • Lt. Col. Phillip J. Kuhl, flying C-45 AF 7110 at 10,000 feet towards Griffiss AFB, reported a silvery cylinder trailing an orange-and-white flame "more than twice the length of the object" on 20 September 1949.
  • The object descended from about 20,000 feet at high speed and vanished into the overcast at 7,000 feet, about thirty miles north-east of Griffiss, according to an Olmsted Flight Service Center report of 22 September 1949.
  • About an hour later 1st Lt. William E. Archbold, flying a C-47 west of Hooksett, New Hampshire, reported a silver fuselage-shaped object diving with a steady orange flame; the two reports are filed together.
  • The Project Blue Book pages read carry no conclusion, and a daylight meteor is an untested ordinary reading.
  • For this case Fractured Realities holds 1 distinct source, 1 corroborating primary document and 2 distinct claimants on its resolved list.
  • The archive grades it L4 · OFFICIAL RECORD — a released government record names who saw it, the top of our scale, though no independent testimony sits beside that record.

Counts are resolved totals of what sources say, computed 2026-10-12; the reported details above are claims in the record, not findings. A record of reports, not a verdict on what happened.

A Silver Cylinder with a Flame Tail over the Adirondacks
From the case file · released government record · Project Blue Book 1940s case files, p. 51 of the case folder · US Air Force record, via the Internet Archive ↗
EVENT DATE
20 September 1949, 09:06
LOCATION
About 30 miles north-east of Griffiss AFB, Rome, New York (object reported near 43°40'N 74°55'W) · USA
COORDS
43.67°N 74.92°W
INDEPENDENCE
L4 · OFFICIAL RECORD
SOURCES
1 distinct
CLAIMANTS
2
STATUS
Known from released government records
NUMBERS COMPUTED 2026-10-12 · RESOLVED COUNTS, NOT A VERDICT
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Lt. Col. Phillip J. Kuhl was at 10,000 feet in C-45 AF 7110 on the leg from Bedford in Massachusetts to Griffiss Air Force Base at Rome, New York. Maj. Earl Goodrich was his co-pilot. At about 09:06 on 20 September 1949 Kuhl saw something at his four o'clock about thirty miles off. It was a cylinder of silvery or aluminium colour. Behind it streamed an orange-and-white flame "more than twice the length of the object". It looked rocket or jet propelled. The report describes a slow descent at high speed from about 20,000 feet until it vanished into the overcast at 7,000 feet. There was no sound and no photograph.

What is on the record

The account is an Olmsted Flight Service Center report dated 22 September 1949, kept in Project Blue Book's 1940s case files. The archive folder that holds it is labelled Goose Bay, Labrador, but that is only the filing. The report places the object near 43°40'N 74°55'W, about thirty miles north-east of Griffiss over the Adirondacks.

The same file holds a second report from about an hour later. At 10:00 1st Lt. William E. Archbold was flying a C-47 twenty miles west of Hooksett in New Hampshire. He saw a silver fuselage-shaped object diving with a steady orange flame. The two sightings are filed together. Nothing in the pages read links them or evaluates either one. Two daylight pilot reports of a flame-tailed object in a dive an hour apart would fit a bright daylight meteor. The file does not test that or any other explanation.

Outside the file the Hatch database lists the Rome sighting and notes the separate pilot report. Johnson's sighting calendar also carries it but gives the aircraft as a C-54. The report itself says C-45.

Why it sits where it does

L4 · OFFICIAL RECORD: a released government record names who saw it. Kuhl made the report and Goodrich sat beside him as co-pilot, and they are the two men the record identifies. Nothing from outside the file stands beside them in the archive. The tier measures sourcing, not truth. What dived into the overcast north-east of Rome is not resolved here.

◆ CORROBORATION
✓1949 09 6313543 GooseBay Labrador (government primary)
✓2 resolved claimants
◆ SOURCES

Everything this file draws on, in the open — reports, not reality. Check us.

Documents & published sources

Government records, papers and journalism the archive links to this case.

government record · 1
Project Blue Book (NARA/archive.org) · 1
PILOT ENCOUNTERGOVERNMENT RECORD1949USA

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